Allen Kessler has posted a tweet that has reopened an old debate about who is the best NL player of all-time. The Chainsaw found an old clip from Poker After Dark where Phil Hellmuth and Daniel Negreanu were arguing over whether the Poker Brat is better at NL than Phil Ivey.
Phil Hellmuth is no stranger to controversy and debate in the poker world. In the short video, Hellmuth claimed that he was a better No-Limit Texas Holdem player than Phil Ivey, thought by many to be the G.O.A.T. The comment sparked a heated discussion between Hellmuth and fellow player Daniel Negreanu, with many viewers and players weighing in on the topic.
The debate got heated when Hellmuth asked a rhetorical question about what Ivey himself would say about who the better player was. Negreanu quickly responded that Ivey was an “old-time hustler” who would never claim to be the best himself and went on to say that the only thing Hellmuth was better at than Phil Ivey is self-promotion.
Negreanu’s comments sparked a debate in the poker community, with many players and fans weighing in on the topic. Allen Kessler, known for provoking plenty of debate himself, conducted a Twitter poll asking who was the better No-Limit Texas Holdem player: Hellmuth or Ivey. The poll results showed that the vast majority of respondents believed that Ivey was the superior player by an 88%:12% margin.
Despite the poll results, some supporters of Hellmuth cited his impressive record of World Series of Poker (WSOP) bracelets as evidence of his superior skill. Hellmuth currently holds the record for the most WSOP bracelets won, with a total of 16 to his name. However, many agree that WSOP bracelets are not necessarily the best measure of a player’s overall skill and success.
It’s worth considering that Negreanu’s comments might have been made to provoke a reaction from Hellmuth for entertainment purposes and to set him off on tilt during the show.
Regardless of who is considered the better player, it’s clear that Hellmuth and Ivey are two of the most successful poker players in history, and opinion will always be split.
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